Comments on: Southafrica - one place - two worlds http://blog.alicesmeets.com/2009/11/01/southafrica-one-place-two-worlds/ La misere n'est pas a soulager mais elle est a detruire.. Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:49:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Hein http://blog.alicesmeets.com/2009/11/01/southafrica-one-place-two-worlds/#comment-24446 Hein Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:12:21 +0000 http://blog.alicesmeets.com/2009/11/01/southafrica-one-place-two-worlds/#comment-24446 Liebe Alice, gute Beobachtung, treffende Beschreibung mit wenigen Worten und klasse Fotos.Ich freue mich, dass Du den Begriff des linearen Denkens aufgegriffen hast. Ähnliche Unterschiede gibt es zu den kulturellen Welten des Hinduismus und Buddhismus mit ihrem zirkularen Denken. Westliche Werte einfach exportieren zu wollen wie Coca Cola funktioniert eben nicht. Und ich glaube dass auch Menschen des christlichen Abendlandes die Herkommens-Voraussetzungen fehlen,um östliche Lebensweisen oder Religionen zu übernehmen. Liebe Grüsse, bis bald Hein Liebe Alice,
gute Beobachtung, treffende Beschreibung mit wenigen Worten und klasse Fotos.Ich freue mich, dass Du den Begriff des linearen Denkens aufgegriffen hast. Ähnliche Unterschiede gibt es zu den kulturellen Welten des Hinduismus und Buddhismus mit ihrem zirkularen Denken. Westliche Werte einfach exportieren zu wollen wie Coca Cola funktioniert eben nicht. Und ich glaube dass auch Menschen des christlichen Abendlandes die Herkommens-Voraussetzungen fehlen,um östliche Lebensweisen oder Religionen zu übernehmen.
Liebe Grüsse, bis bald
Hein

]]> By: Stephen Malagodi http://blog.alicesmeets.com/2009/11/01/southafrica-one-place-two-worlds/#comment-23870 Stephen Malagodi Mon, 02 Nov 2009 03:02:18 +0000 http://blog.alicesmeets.com/2009/11/01/southafrica-one-place-two-worlds/#comment-23870 Quite right about the juxtaposition. In 1989 my first trip to Zimbabwe (Rhodesia), it was 9 years after the civil war. I found the Black Zimbabwean attitude toward me, White American, quite natural and without animus, rather as it is in Haiti. The next year in SA was shocking in that there was a complete chasm between White and Black. One could go from Khayelitsha to an indoor shopping mall with Lord and Taylor etc. in 10 minutes. I remember one such experience, going from a township with people buying fresh butchered meat, fish and vegetables in open air stalls ~buzzing with flies of course~ and then being in a mall where the food fare was Kentucky Fried Chicken. This was 3 months after the unbanning. That there is still poverty and violence less than 20 years later is not surprising. A similarity between Haiti and Zimbabwe worth noting may be that in those cases, there was a successful and violent war that resulted in African self-governance. In SA, there was a successful but political transition in which the Whites sought to maintain their economic power and because of the political settlement, they have. I would be interested in your feelings about Haiti vs SA, not just on economics, but on human relations. And, of course, the photos. Quite right about the juxtaposition. In 1989 my first trip to Zimbabwe (Rhodesia), it was 9 years after the civil war. I found the Black Zimbabwean attitude toward me, White American, quite natural and without animus, rather as it is in Haiti.
The next year in SA was shocking in that there was a complete chasm between White and Black. One could go from Khayelitsha to an indoor shopping mall with Lord and Taylor etc. in 10 minutes.
I remember one such experience, going from a township with people buying fresh butchered meat, fish and vegetables in open air stalls ~buzzing with flies of course~ and then being in a mall where the food fare was Kentucky Fried Chicken.
This was 3 months after the unbanning.
That there is still poverty and violence less than 20 years later is not surprising.
A similarity between Haiti and Zimbabwe worth noting may be that in those cases, there was a successful and violent war that resulted in African self-governance. In SA, there was a successful but political transition in which the Whites sought to maintain their economic power and because of the political settlement, they have.
I would be interested in your feelings about Haiti vs SA, not just on economics, but on human relations.
And, of course, the photos.

]]> By: Anne http://blog.alicesmeets.com/2009/11/01/southafrica-one-place-two-worlds/#comment-23855 Anne Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:54:47 +0000 http://blog.alicesmeets.com/2009/11/01/southafrica-one-place-two-worlds/#comment-23855 Hi Alice, Hoffe, dass es dir gut geht und du viel erlebst!! Dein Text ist echt super geschrieben und ich finde, du hast vollkommen Recht mit dem, was du da schreibst!!! Wir sollten alle mehr darüber nachdenken!! Liebe Grüße nach Südafrika und noch viel Spass und gute Fotos... Anne Hi Alice,
Hoffe, dass es dir gut geht und du viel erlebst!!
Dein Text ist echt super geschrieben und ich finde, du hast vollkommen Recht mit dem, was du da schreibst!!!
Wir sollten alle mehr darüber nachdenken!!

Liebe Grüße nach Südafrika und noch viel Spass und gute Fotos…

Anne

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